I recently ran across the suggestion of doing flashcards for individual words, but including a sample sentence for each word, untranslated. In that way, you get a sense of how the word works in context, and get a background sense of structure, without trading one type of rote memorization for another. The trick, then, is finding the word you’re curious about used in context. Some learners’ dictionaries are good for this, offering examples for most words. I plan on trying this with Breton soon since I have a children’s dictionary that fits that bill. We’ll see how it works out.

I guess the main problem with this is the materials. You may find your word referenced in an article which is poorly written. Another thing is that it helps a lot to find references of the word in other articles you yourself have already gone through.

Anyway, looking forward to the detailed write-up of your approach.

“Flashcard” is just a name for the review activity. There are different way to implement it. When I was at school, I used to have a word list with the meanings written on the right hand side. When I reviewed the words, I covered up the right hand side. This, and your ways were just different forms of ‘flashcard’ activities.

I will find another place to write, my current Chinese learning blog is fairly randomw and sporodic, I write a bit more formally about webstuff elsewhere, I think need somewhere else again to collect a more disciplined summary of my language learning experiances.

Edwin, you wrote about the flashcards: “It is proven to be very effective and there is no doubt about it.” Perhaps I should overcome my prejudice against the flashcards. When I look at my vocab lists at LingQ, I nearly instantly realize if I know the meaning of a particular word or phrase (and then I would not like this one to appear among the flashcards) or I don’t know its meaning (and then I immediately click on it with the Babylon to find out its meaning). And no need for the flashcards remains. At least so it is with the LingQ. Perhaps the spaced repetition adds a value?

Chris, you wrote “I intend to start writing up this and other methods I use properly soon…”. I hope to find it on your site and look forward to reading it.

Now I think I am in a phase that is commonly described and seems to ring true. I am pretty comfortable in conversation and a lot of the routine stuff no longer requires thought but I always come unstuck just due to not not knowing enough vocab. At this point the potential vocab I am interested in seems overwhealming, and the number of different ways to say the same thing appears daunting.

I have experimented a bit, simply keeping text files of words and phrases on Google docs and regularly pruning them, the way that works best for me and I am sticking to follows.

I store each word as tagged link in del.iciou.us usually to the online http://www.mdbg.net/chindict/chindict.php reference, but if not in there it could be the chinesepod dictionary or ting dictionary etc. I copy the definitions into the title as well as descritption (this can be done very fast with the del.iciou.us firefox plugin. I can also link to webpages that have good examples of the word usage if I wish.

Google search is important for context (you can run a google search on a word straight from the dictionary reference). Delicious allows RSS feeds on tags so I cam pull “views” on my vocab straight into google reader, even star them or combine views depending on what I feel like studying.

Once I have a small set of appropriate tags it is easy to prune words by retagging, I can define words that I want to learn, or words that I know but can’t read yet, or link to an online video with good contextual usages etc.

Sounds mad but it works, for me it is really easy to add, view, delete or change the status of words. I don’t really do flashcards at the moment but if I do feel a pressing need to I am a programmer so it would be easy to pull out the data I want from a tag feed.

BTW I couldn’t resist. An extract from Steve’s book The Linguist.
Zhuangzi, the Taoist philosopher, is supposed to have lived in China over 2,300 years ago. He encouraged people to achieve their potential through effortlessness, by not resisting their own natures. THAT is exactly what I meant by effortless.

BTW of course you can tag a whole sentence or more easily in many ways, just link to the sentence breakdown page in mdbg for example. Really the sky is the limit.

If this sounds like the ramblings of a martian madman then that might be because your head isn’t in a web 2.0 space yet. I intend to start writing up this and other methods I use properly soon, all should become clear, of course they won’t suit everybody.

Steve mentioned about reviewing the vocabulary in different orders (alphabetical, by creation date, etc), butI doubt that it is scalable either. For example, I currently have about 1000 words in my LingQ vocabulary. If I do the alphabetical review, I wonder when I would get to S or T, if I can reach there at all.

I talked to Steve back in October, and he also thought that adding a spaced repetition feature in LingQ could be a good idea. He mentioned the same thing again in the LingQ forum recently. However, he also said that it is not a high priority feature at the moment.

I was reading your blog from time to time since you began commenting on the site of Steve Kaufmann. I like very much your tasteful style and value your balanced opinion.

Regarding your intention to do more of the in-context reviewing. As far as I understand, you want to import the examples from LingQ into JMemorize mainly due to the space repetition nature of the latter, don’t you? (Otherwise you could choose to directly review the textual fragments highlighted in LingQ, which fragments are already in the context ).

Do you think your reviewing of the vocabulary lists of the words and phrases that originate from LingQ would be significantly more effective, if you didn’t have to ” to touch it up a bit” each phrase that cames from LingQ?

Thank you, and thanks for all your previous responses to my questions on Steve’s blog.