Comments on: Vocabulary Maintainance http://www.towerofconfusion.com/2007/02/05/vocabulary-maintainance/ Language Learning and Multiculturalism Thu, 26 Jan 2012 10:34:26 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Learning Vocabulary Through Context « Tower of Confusion http://www.towerofconfusion.com/2007/02/05/vocabulary-maintainance/comment-page-1/#comment-118 Learning Vocabulary Through Context « Tower of Confusion Mon, 31 Dec 2007 20:49:53 +0000 http://towerofconfusion.wordpress.com/2007/02/05/vocabulary-maintainance/#comment-118 [...] I have encountered, and I use JMemorize as the reviewing tool. I find this to be very efficient in maintaining the list of vocabulary. But then reviewing them might take some time, especially with my current vocabulary of more than [...] [...] I have encountered, and I use JMemorize as the reviewing tool. I find this to be very efficient in maintaining the list of vocabulary. But then reviewing them might take some time, especially with my current vocabulary of more than [...]

]]> By: edwinlaw http://www.towerofconfusion.com/2007/02/05/vocabulary-maintainance/comment-page-1/#comment-117 edwinlaw Fri, 23 Feb 2007 03:43:12 +0000 http://towerofconfusion.wordpress.com/2007/02/05/vocabulary-maintainance/#comment-117 Hi Riad, thanks for your comment. I would like to personally thank you for the great software. It has been helping myself and many others in our language learning. I am looking forward for your next version! Hi Riad, thanks for your comment.

I would like to personally thank you for the great software. It has been helping myself and many others in our language learning.

I am looking forward for your next version!

]]> By: Riad http://www.towerofconfusion.com/2007/02/05/vocabulary-maintainance/comment-page-1/#comment-116 Riad Thu, 22 Feb 2007 13:42:21 +0000 http://towerofconfusion.wordpress.com/2007/02/05/vocabulary-maintainance/#comment-116 I don't get where the difference is in jMemorize and fullrecall/supermemo in regards to learning in context. jMemorize is a general purpose learning tool and allows to add as much text to every card as you like and even to organize cards by categories. You can also group cards by their category in learning sessions, if you want all cards belonging to one topic to appear together. Otherwise you can also just enable shuffling and learn in a totaly random order. Asad, could you elaborate a little on how fullrecall/supermemo work differently in this regards? How do they allow to learn in context? I don’t get where the difference is in jMemorize and fullrecall/supermemo in regards to learning in context. jMemorize is a general purpose learning tool and allows to add as much text to every card as you like and even to organize cards by categories. You can also group cards by their category in learning sessions, if you want all cards belonging to one topic to appear together. Otherwise you can also just enable shuffling and learn in a totaly random order.

Asad, could you elaborate a little on how fullrecall/supermemo work differently in this regards? How do they allow to learn in context?

]]> By: asad http://www.towerofconfusion.com/2007/02/05/vocabulary-maintainance/comment-page-1/#comment-115 asad Thu, 15 Feb 2007 12:37:04 +0000 http://towerofconfusion.wordpress.com/2007/02/05/vocabulary-maintainance/#comment-115 fullrecall -- upto 500 elements/vocabulary words per database then you need to buy it for 19 bucks if you want to have infinite limit of your database. Atleast go for working with your 500 items in the first place :) supermemo - 98 version is a freeware version, had all the options to work with that all up-to-date versions have. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supermemo you can download a free version from above link. fullrecall — upto 500 elements/vocabulary words per database then you need to buy it for 19 bucks if you want to have infinite limit of your database. Atleast go for working with your 500 items in the first place :)

supermemo – 98 version is a freeware version, had all the options to work with that all up-to-date versions have.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supermemo

you can download a free version from above link.

]]> By: edwinlaw http://www.towerofconfusion.com/2007/02/05/vocabulary-maintainance/comment-page-1/#comment-114 edwinlaw Thu, 15 Feb 2007 03:02:53 +0000 http://towerofconfusion.wordpress.com/2007/02/05/vocabulary-maintainance/#comment-114 asad, thanks for your suggestions. Are they freeware? asad, thanks for your suggestions. Are they freeware?

]]> By: asad http://www.towerofconfusion.com/2007/02/05/vocabulary-maintainance/comment-page-1/#comment-113 asad Wed, 14 Feb 2007 18:23:30 +0000 http://towerofconfusion.wordpress.com/2007/02/05/vocabulary-maintainance/#comment-113 btw guys, how do you get your pronunciation right when you add a word to imemorize or does it provide you an option of making audio items where you can guess a pronunciation of a word by looking at its spelling and matching its real pronunciation by listening to its an audio pronunciation. I hope I made myself clear. btw guys, how do you get your pronunciation right when you add a word to imemorize or does it provide you an option of making audio items where you can guess a pronunciation of a word by looking at its spelling and matching its real pronunciation by listening to its an audio pronunciation. I hope I made myself clear.

]]> By: asad http://www.towerofconfusion.com/2007/02/05/vocabulary-maintainance/comment-page-1/#comment-107 asad Wed, 14 Feb 2007 18:19:41 +0000 http://towerofconfusion.wordpress.com/2007/02/05/vocabulary-maintainance/#comment-107 http://www.supermemo.com http://www.fullrecall.com http://www.supermemo.com
http://www.fullrecall.com

]]> By: asad http://www.towerofconfusion.com/2007/02/05/vocabulary-maintainance/comment-page-1/#comment-108 asad Wed, 14 Feb 2007 18:17:41 +0000 http://towerofconfusion.wordpress.com/2007/02/05/vocabulary-maintainance/#comment-108 memorizing softwares like supermemo and fullrecall can be a big help whem it comes to memorizing a word in context. The best way for learning newly-acquired words is in context and there is no other way to it. So copying a real sentence in which a word is appeared to the software and recallin' its meaning and understanding of the word is made easier by such softwares. There is no restriction limit on how many words you can put on a particular item, which is limitless. The way jmemorize software is designed, the kind of feeling I have from taking a look at its screenshots, is that I am memorizing words from a list of words with no real context. Kinda monotonous! memorizing softwares like supermemo and fullrecall can be a big help whem it comes to memorizing a word in context. The best way for learning newly-acquired words is in context and there is no other way to it. So copying a real sentence in which a word is appeared to the software and recallin’ its meaning and understanding of the word is made easier by such softwares. There is no restriction limit on how many words you can put on a particular item, which is limitless.

The way jmemorize software is designed, the kind of feeling I have from taking a look at its screenshots, is that I am memorizing words from a list of words with no real context. Kinda monotonous!

]]> By: edwinlaw http://www.towerofconfusion.com/2007/02/05/vocabulary-maintainance/comment-page-1/#comment-109 edwinlaw Wed, 14 Feb 2007 04:56:59 +0000 http://towerofconfusion.wordpress.com/2007/02/05/vocabulary-maintainance/#comment-109 Scott, I think it is easier to maintain one list within JMemorize instead of several smaller lists. You may sort them by categories. You may also keep them separate outside JMemorize. As for me, I sort my vocabulary in verbs, nouns, adverbs, etc. But when doing memorization, I mix everything together. It is more fun this way. Scott, I think it is easier to maintain one list within JMemorize instead of several smaller lists. You may sort them by categories. You may also keep them separate outside JMemorize.

As for me, I sort my vocabulary in verbs, nouns, adverbs, etc. But when doing memorization, I mix everything together. It is more fun this way.

]]> By: Scott http://www.towerofconfusion.com/2007/02/05/vocabulary-maintainance/comment-page-1/#comment-110 Scott Wed, 14 Feb 2007 04:48:24 +0000 http://towerofconfusion.wordpress.com/2007/02/05/vocabulary-maintainance/#comment-110 I've been playing around with JMemorize. It's a fun and interesting application. Thanks for the reference. I'm loading small vocabulary lists into JMemorize and using them to increase my listening comprehension. It's working well so far, but I think I might need bigger lists to start seeing the real power of the Leitner system. I’ve been playing around with JMemorize. It’s a fun and interesting application. Thanks for the reference.

I’m loading small vocabulary lists into JMemorize and using them to increase my listening comprehension. It’s working well so far, but I think I might need bigger lists to start seeing the real power of the Leitner system.

]]> By: edwinlaw http://www.towerofconfusion.com/2007/02/05/vocabulary-maintainance/comment-page-1/#comment-112 edwinlaw Wed, 07 Feb 2007 16:30:05 +0000 http://towerofconfusion.wordpress.com/2007/02/05/vocabulary-maintainance/#comment-112 Geoff, A nice thing about the Leitner system is that it works under different difficulty levels. It just takes longer for more difficult words. Another thing about the system is that it does not pressure you very much. If you forget a word, then start again. It will eventually work its way up the decks. Remember, learning 2 words actually involved learning 3 things. The 2 words themselves, and how do differentiate them. I have words that came down all the way from deck #7, just because I got confused with some new words. But eventually I need to learn how to differentiate them. This is what learning vocabulary is all about. Geoff,
A nice thing about the Leitner system is that it works under different difficulty levels. It just takes longer for more difficult words.

Another thing about the system is that it does not pressure you very much. If you forget a word, then start again. It will eventually work its way up the decks.

Remember, learning 2 words actually involved learning 3 things. The 2 words themselves, and how do differentiate them. I have words that came down all the way from deck #7, just because I got confused with some new words. But eventually I need to learn how to differentiate them. This is what learning vocabulary is all about.

]]> By: Geoff http://www.towerofconfusion.com/2007/02/05/vocabulary-maintainance/comment-page-1/#comment-111 Geoff Wed, 07 Feb 2007 08:00:13 +0000 http://towerofconfusion.wordpress.com/2007/02/05/vocabulary-maintainance/#comment-111 It sounds like you've got your process all worked out. I hope it keeps coming together for you. I've found that for some languages, vocabulary building is easy, and for others the learning of five new words leads to the loss of five old ones. In my case, the better my foundation in the language, the less common are the problems. I can see doing something like this for Spanish or Italian or even German. But with recent languages that I lack a foundation in - Uzbek, Turkish and Mandarin - it's a chore. I hope one day to find the silver bullet for these challenges. Till then, I suppose I'll have to work at it. Best of luck. It sounds like you’ve got your process all worked out. I hope it keeps coming together for you. I’ve found that for some languages, vocabulary building is easy, and for others the learning of five new words leads to the loss of five old ones. In my case, the better my foundation in the language, the less common are the problems. I can see doing something like this for Spanish or Italian or even German. But with recent languages that I lack a foundation in – Uzbek, Turkish and Mandarin – it’s a chore. I hope one day to find the silver bullet for these challenges. Till then, I suppose I’ll have to work at it. Best of luck.

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